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Post by jrtllf01 on Dec 4, 2005 6:59:36 GMT -5
OOPS! Dot, in re-reading your comments, I realized that I failed to answer one crucial question of yours: Will I keep Taylor dead.
Yes--at least for now. I think Ridge and his family have enough on their plates as it is. LOL! Also, given how SOD cited Taylor's return as one of soap's worst for 2005, I think I want to leave it alone. Not only did B&B's premise for bringing her back sucked, they also insulted viewers' intelligence--after we ALL saw her laid out in a casket for three days. On top of that, her ghost visited Ridge, Brooke and Jackie in a single night.
They hyped up Taylor's return and her connection to Dante, and that fizzled. To this day, people are still wondering what that was all about. Plus the backstory was so sloppily explained where I was left wondering, "you mean, that's IT?" In addition, while I understood that TIIC wanted to end Bridge, I was totally turned off by the Brooke-bashing that Taylor resorted to, especially in light of her own moral failings (i.e., shagging James and knowing that her husband is still unaware of it). Meanwhile, look at everything that Taylor DOESN'T know, specifically the white elephant in the room called Ridget. Yet, Bridget had carte blanche to come and go as she pleased. Nor, did I appreciate the way the show glossed over Taylor finding out about Amber deflowering her kid. Evidently, she was more concerned about Brooke sleeping with Deacon than she was about Amber (who was Thomas' aunt) sleeping with yet another child.
I've remained tight-lipped about the character's hypocrisy and the way the writers dropped the ball on several things that should have been triggered with Taylor's return: her license to practice medicine expired; she and her family should have immediately sought counseling; Jack, Tricia and Zack's absence, etc. The other thing I found jarring is that Nick of all people would seek "counseling" from her which, in my opinion, only presented her with yet another opportunity to get in one of her little Brooke-bashing digs.
So no, I have no plans to resurrect Taylor at this time.
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Post by missyb on Dec 4, 2005 12:44:57 GMT -5
JR! Fantastic! WOW...this was worth the wait!. It's been a while however you've pulled me back into the world of B&B...which I can't stand.
Stpehanie is back in business. Isn't it funny that instead of focusing on her own ruined marriage, she focusing on Ridge and Taylor. The grave scene was telling. Her obesseion on raising Taylor's children is crazy. Instead of thinking of their well being she's thinking of keeping Brooke from them. I also hated her demenor toward Catherine. Why is it that people like Stephanie think that people who work for them can't have degrees. Catherine is qualified professional who knows about child development. She also knows that something is wrong with Bridget playing the role of Taylor. It's distrubing that Bridget would actually watch videos to change her manerisms to be like Taylor.,,sick. Catherine also seems to be the only person who has the children's best intrest in mind. Brooke is dealing with her, which she should, this isn't her mess. Ridge is now being rude to everyone in sight simply because he can't get what HE wants!
As for Stephanie...now she realizes that "threat" that Bridget may be, she's turning on her. Instead of talking to the confused girl...she thinks that choking her is a way to take care of the situation.
I loves your description of the clothes....Katie and Brooke are knock outs! They certainly know what to do to make them feel better!
Eric's discussion with his children was heatbreaking but needed. Felicia does look like Ridge...could she be another man's child as well?
WOW...the return of the biggest mastermind, schemer and social-path...Shelia! I love the conversation between Dr. Garcia and Shelia. WOW...I can't wait. She's pregant with Massimo's baby. What is she going to do? How is she going to use it to get out of jail? I can't wait to see. Massimo's other baby's momma!
WOW...the Bridget and Stephanie confrontation had me rolling with laughter. I don't know who was more crzay, Stephanie scared that Bridget who wants to get her claws in Bridget or Bridget who wants to defend her sick "love" with her brother. I must say that I clearly could picture Stephanie throwing Bridget out of the house.
Brooke certainly impressed by Nick's change. Can't wait until the next chapter. !! Love IT!
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Post by dotd on Dec 4, 2005 19:10:33 GMT -5
Thanks JR, you know I've been kicking around bringing Taylor back in ITNOT, but IF I do, it won't be the same way. Maybe it will be the idea, but I will try and make it more realistic somehow. I don't think you need her in your story, but you can always bring her if you want to. And as for Nick being a Marone, I haven't decided on that either. I of course, have Frank Payne in my story and I've hinted that Massimo could be his dad too, but for now the mystery makes for a better story, and I think I like keeping "Captain Payne" too! I think becoming Nick Marone was his downfall.
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Post by jrtllf01 on Dec 4, 2005 19:34:42 GMT -5
JR! Fantastic! WOW...this was worth the wait!. It's been a while however you've pulled me back into the world of B&B...which I can't stand. Stpehanie is back in business. Isn't it funny that instead of focusing on her own ruined marriage, she focusing on Ridge and Taylor. The grave scene was telling. Her obesseion on raising Taylor's children is crazy. Instead of thinking of their well being she's thinking of keeping Brooke from them. I also hated her demenor toward Catherine. Why is it that people like Stephanie think that people who work for them can't have degrees. Catherine is qualified professional who knows about child development. She also knows that something is wrong with Bridget playing the role of Taylor. It's distrubing that Bridget would actually watch videos to change her manerisms to be like Taylor.,,sick. Catherine also seems to be the only person who has the children's best intrest in mind. Brooke is dealing with her, which she should, this isn't her mess. Ridge is now being rude to everyone in sight simply because he can't get what HE wants! As for Stephanie...now she realizes that "threat" that Bridget may be, she's turning on her. Instead of talking to the confused girl...she thinks that choking her is a way to take care of the situation. I loves your description of the clothes....Katie and Brooke are knock outs! They certainly know what to do to make them feel better! Eric's discussion with his children was heatbreaking but needed. Felicia does look like Ridge...could she be another man's child as well? WOW...the return of the biggest mastermind, schemer and social-path...Shelia! I love the conversation between Dr. Garcia and Shelia. WOW...I can't wait. She's pregant with Massimo's baby. What is she going to do? How is she going to use it to get out of jail? I can't wait to see. Massimo's other baby's momma! WOW...the Bridget and Stephanie confrontation had me rolling with laughter. I don't know who was more crzay, Stephanie scared that Bridget who wants to get her claws in Bridget or Bridget who wants to defend her sick "love" with her brother. I must say that I clearly could picture Stephanie throwing Bridget out of the house. Brooke certainly impressed by Nick's change. Can't wait until the next chapter. !! Love IT! Hi, Missy! It's great hearing from you and I'm glad to see that you have a new computer. Aren't new husbands wonderful? LOL! Excellent observation about Stephanie! It is weird how she is so fixated on putting Ridge's house in order that she's totally ignoring the pox on her own house. It's like she's totally oblivious to the damage that her lies have wrecked on her family. I can't stand it either when people are condescending to the "help." It's like they have no clue sometimes that the people who are in their employ have lives, families and ambitions outside of what their employers see. Not only is Catherine qualified about children and family matters, but she loves those children since she helped to raise them. In addition, she knows there is something very warped about what Bridget has been doing and the messages the children are getting. In some sense, Ridge may have unwittingly set this up when he and Bridget commiserated about Brooke sleeping with Deacon. It was one thing for him to comfort a wounded Bridget; it was quite another for him to encourage her hatred and contempt for Brooke. I look forward to Brooke--and Eric--dealing with this mess as parents. Ridge is behaving like a spoiled child who had his bicycle stolen. He screwed up big time, but rather than looking inward, he wants to lash out at everyone else whom he perceives is keeping him from what he wants. It's very interesting to see Stephanie turn on Bridget. She tried to get rid of Bridget before but that didn't work. I had a ball writing the Stephanie and Bridget fight scenes. They both claim to love Ridge, but their brand of love is sick and toxic. And, once again, the object of their obsession is no where around to witness all this nonsense. All I can say is that if Bridget thinks she can take on Stephanie, she may end up getting her feelings hurt. LOL! The discussion between Eric and his other children was definitely much needed. It always surprised me that onscreen, they so readily accepted Ridge's paternity and their mother's treachery and were so passive about the news. It was like a non-issue. Yet, Brooke is still fighting the Breacon battle. Go figure. It's definitely time, too, that Eric asks questions. However, I have to wonder if he will be swayed by the arguments of his children regarding Ridge. He loves Ridge, but is very hurt by what happened. I'm glad you're enjoying the return of Sheila, who is carrying a whopper of a secret. Massimo had definitely better start paying attention, but he honestly doesn't know. As to whether or not Miss Three-Strikes can use it as leverage to get out of jail remains to be seen. She's a lifer and the system is just tired of her. But, you know Sheila. She doesn't think the rules apply to her, and like most narcissists and sociopaths, she will use anything and anyone (including her unborn baby whom she claims to love) to get what she wants. I just hope that Dr. Garcia doesn't lose her sanity in dealing with Sheila! I'm glad you enjoyed Brooke and Katie. I wanted them to have a great time and I wanted to do this justice, right down to the last detail, from the furnishings, music, food, clothes and other guests. I have to confess that I struggled with the clothes. I actually saved copies of People's Best and Worst Dressed issues from 2002 and 2003. The outfit Jackie wore was cited as a "best," as was worn by a particular actress. Katie's outfit was worn by Renee Russo in one of the issues under the "best" category as well. I actually went online and researched the spring fashion show offerings by several designers for Brooke's dress. When I saw it, I fell in love with it immediately and knew that KKL would do it justice. The designer who was credited with Brooke's dress is great. Brooke was definitely impressed by Nick! Although she was engaged to Ridge and just suffered the shock of her life, she's not dead and definitely has eyes. I know that you're not necessarily a Bricky fan, so I'm always interested in knowing what your thoughts are. I had a lot more but the chapter was already getting too long. Thanks so much for your comments! It was a joy reading them, and I look forward to reading "Love Story" soon!
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Post by Kaylyn on Dec 5, 2005 9:58:41 GMT -5
What a wonderful chapter, Miss JR. I loved every word of it.
I loved Catherine's frank talk with Stephanie, and was surprised at Stephanie's reaction. I thought she would just dismiss the truths that Catherine was telling her. I was happy that she got in Bridget's face. Bridget is one sick puppy, and Stephanie may have met her match in her fight for Ridge.
Eric talking with "his" children was very sad and poignant. I hate that B&B never showed how Ridge’s siblings felt about their mother’s betrayal. In retrospect, Stephanie’s over abundance of love for Ridge must sting even more for them. Did she love him more because of who his father was? I don’t think I could easily forgive my mother had I lived in the constant darkness of my brother’s shadow, while he thrived and I was ignored.
This whole chapter was just wonderful; from Ridge showing his ass to Brooke facing down the hedgehog, aka Freda Frump, LOL. Now, you know I’m not all about Nick, but since your character bears very little resemblance to the character on the show, I think I’ll be able to enjoy your version of him.
Thanks for the wonderful read. Nothing better on a cold snowy day here in Wisconsin!
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Post by jrtllf01 on Dec 6, 2005 16:58:20 GMT -5
What a wonderful chapter, Miss JR. I loved every word of it.
I loved Catherine's frank talk with Stephanie, and was surprised at Stephanie's reaction. I thought she would just dismiss the truths that Catherine was telling her. I was happy that she got in Bridget's face. Bridget is one sick puppy, and Stephanie may have met her match in her fight for Ridge.
Eric talking with "his" children was very sad and poignant. I hate that B&B never showed how Ridge’s siblings felt about their mother’s betrayal. In retrospect, Stephanie’s over abundance of love for Ridge must sting even more for them. Did she love him more because of who his father was? I don’t think I could easily forgive my mother had I lived in the constant darkness of my brother’s shadow, while he thrived and I was ignored.
This whole chapter was just wonderful; from Ridge showing his ass to Brooke facing down the hedgehog, aka Freda Frump, LOL. Now, you know I’m not all about Nick, but since your character bears very little resemblance to the character on the show, I think I’ll be able to enjoy your version of him.
Thanks for the wonderful read. Nothing better on a cold snowy day here in Wisconsin!
Hi, Kay! It's really great to hear from you and I'm glad you enjoyed the chapter! Catherine's observations were right on the money and just too dire to ignore or dismiss. As soon as Stephanie realized that her favorite grandchild was in trouble, all bets were off. She was also forced to be honest with herself for one of the few times in her life. I also loved her getting in Bridget's face; but notice how she has little blame for Ridge himself other than he was "confused?" I'm so glad that Catherine put that "confused" crap in its proper perspective. Bridget is definitely touched—and not by an angel either! It's high time somebody brought her down off her perch and Stephanie is more than happy to do it. However, as you indicated, Stephanie may have met her match and may have bitten off more than she could chew. And, isn't it funny how we never find out how Stephanie's family feels about anything that really matters? Oh, sure the fake heart attack was something, but how long did they really stay angry with her before she was back in their good graces? The rest of the family is justifiably hurt and angry over Stephanie's betrayal and her doing everything she can to elevate her spawn at their expense. I remember being highly upset at the roughshod way Ridge, Stephanie and Taylor ran over the rest of the family when Ridge was trying to take over Forrester Creations while Brooke was away. No trick, lie or fabrication was too low for them. Claiming Brooke was "mentally incapacitated" was a cheap shot but just par for the course for that trio! The way Stephanie and Taylor fought to get Ridge the top spot, it was like watching The Omen and Damien – Omen II (the way Damien's handlers and earthly protectors resorted to every evil imaginable to elevate him). Well, I wanted Eric's other children to remember Ridge's high-handed treatment of them and the company that most of them worked for. I also wanted them to really stop and think about how Ridge—along with Stephanie—walked out of Forrester Creations when he couldn't have his way. Ridge wanted Forrester Creations for himself and put Taylor on the board to rubberstamp every decision he made. And, Stephanie campaigned heavily for Ridge to get the lion's share of the company and Eric's estate. So the sting of Stephanie's betrayal definitely hurts the others in light of those factors. I definitely want them to realize that Stephanie's claim that she left Eric to live with Massimo because she was "disappointed" in him was merely a smokescreen to cover up the fact that she was basically being blackmailed. I also wondered if Ridge had more attention and love lavished on him because of who his father was. At one time, I just thought it was because he was the bait that got Stephanie the man she obsessed over in college. Now, I can't be too sure. It's unfortunate that sibling rivalry has once again reared its ugly head, but you're right about how you would feel under these circumstances. Eric's other children can't help but feel the same way. At least the girls were allowed to use their creativity to flourish, albeit in a limited capacity. But, poor Thorne was always relegated to that basement! Ridge has no qualms about showing his ass when he's being denied something he wants. I love your name for Freda Frump! A hedgehog—LOL! I wanted Brooke to publicly face down that old gossip and to stop allowing people to insult Hope because of the circumstances of her conception and birth. Kay, I'm well aware of how you feel about Nick. LOL! Believe me, I ain't mad at ya! I find myself frequently looking at old clips from 2003 these days to remind myself of the way Captain Nick Payne used to be. It's hard not to want to play Taps whenever he appears onscreen these days. I'll try to do my darnedest to make Nick into someone you can enjoy—but remember, he'll still have flaws. I'm glad that I could give you something to read during your snow storm! BTW—I'm also looking forward to reading something more from you!
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Post by foreverbrookie on Dec 17, 2005 22:38:19 GMT -5
WOW! MsJr. I LOVE your story! It's so descriptive (I was wondering how you came up with all the spectacular attire for everyone, I was starting to get a major case of closet envy!) I never thought of pulling it out of the rag mags (I know People's not a rag, I just never pay much attention myself to any of those magazines that talk about celebritys. Well except if it's about Tom Brady ) Well I have alot of comments to make because I just caught up with the whole story. I really like how you are having Stephanie get her just desserts. When Eric threw all her belongings out on the lawn I was howling! That was just awesome and her being called on the carpet for being a hussy in her own right! I kind of hope that Bridget wins her little war with her, not because I like Bridget because I don't but because it's nice to see someone take on Steph, and that beotch really brought it all on herself. It was kind of nice to hear Bridget say that wasn't going to let her walk on her like she did to her mother. I guess in a sense it was nice for me to hear her acknowledge the fact that she did treat her mother poorly. Even if maybe she doesn't realize that she pointed that particular fact out. I'm glad that you brought up the fact that maybe there are other of the Forrester children that aren't Eric's as well and that he wants to have paternity testing done on them to make sure. If I was him I'd be skeptical as well. Steph has told him a lot of lies and as far as he knows there are more that he is not aware of. It leads me to wonder if there are any more skeletons in Satan's closet that we don't know about. And speaking of Satan. I love how you worked in all the little nicknames that we all have for everyone into the story. It kept me laughing. You have Deacon so slimy and nasty but yet still caring about his kids and standing up to Massimo. I have no love lost for Massimo. I just loved your description of him eating his breakfast! Oh and the whole Tricia Quick thing. Damn that was a good idea having her being one of Massimo's lackies. That was one of those odd things on the show that I never could figure out. Your idea makes a lot of sense. That and Catherine having the low down on what was going on in the house and her interpretation of it. Felicia was snippy and full of barbs. I liked her interaction with Kristen and then her faux pas saying that she looked just like Ridge! Jackie and Nick are interesting like the way they started out initially. Loved Nick's visit to Justin's barber shop. Brooke and Katie were fun and light hearted even though they got into some serious conversations. It's good to see Brooke with someone to turn too. That Freeda Frump chic is a riot,her hat was just too much! Her and Brooke getting into it kind of reminded me of Brooke/Stephanie sparring. Ridge is out of control. I was kind of surprised that the hotel clerk gave it back to him, even though he did deserve it. Was nice to see him get thrown out of the hotel. Oh and I almost forgot Sheila! I Love hearing about her in prison! I've always thought she was the most delicious villianess of B&B (when they didn't give her those rediculous storylines) and I'm dying to know what she might do to Massimo. Maybe she can get a cryptic message to Mike threw a third party. I can't wait to see what happens at the High Tea with Brooke/Nick/Katie/Jackie! Great story! Looking forward to more!
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Post by jrtllf01 on Dec 20, 2005 23:59:55 GMT -5
WOW! MsJr. I LOVE your story! It's so descriptive (I was wondering how you came up with all the spectacular attire for everyone, I was starting to get a major case of closet envy!) I never thought of pulling it out of the rag mags (I know People's not a rag, I just never pay much attention myself to any of those magazines that talk about celebritys. Well except if it's about Tom Brady ) Well I have alot of comments to make because I just caught up with the whole story. I really like how you are having Stephanie get her just desserts. When Eric threw all her belongings out on the lawn I was howling! That was just awesome and her being called on the carpet for being a hussy in her own right! I kind of hope that Bridget wins her little war with her, not because I like Bridget because I don't but because it's nice to see someone take on Steph, and that beotch really brought it all on herself. It was kind of nice to hear Bridget say that wasn't going to let her walk on her like she did to her mother. I guess in a sense it was nice for me to hear her acknowledge the fact that she did treat her mother poorly. Even if maybe she doesn't realize that she pointed that particular fact out. I'm glad that you brought up the fact that maybe there are other of the Forrester children that aren't Eric's as well and that he wants to have paternity testing done on them to make sure. If I was him I'd be skeptical as well. Steph has told him a lot of lies and as far as he knows there are more that he is not aware of. It leads me to wonder if there are any more skeletons in Satan's closet that we don't know about. And speaking of Satan. I love how you worked in all the little nicknames that we all have for everyone into the story. It kept me laughing. You have Deacon so slimy and nasty but yet still caring about his kids and standing up to Massimo. I have no love lost for Massimo. I just loved your description of him eating his breakfast! Oh and the whole Tricia Quick thing. Damn that was a good idea having her being one of Massimo's lackies. That was one of those odd things on the show that I never could figure out. Your idea makes a lot of sense. That and Catherine having the low down on what was going on in the house and her interpretation of it. Felicia was snippy and full of barbs. I liked her interaction with Kristen and then her faux pas saying that she looked just like Ridge! Jackie and Nick are interesting like the way they started out initially. Loved Nick's visit to Justin's barber shop. Brooke and Katie were fun and light hearted even though they got into some serious conversations. It's good to see Brooke with someone to turn too. That Freeda Frump chic is a riot,her hat was just too much! Her and Brooke getting into it kind of reminded me of Brooke/Stephanie sparring. Ridge is out of control. I was kind of surprised that the hotel clerk gave it back to him, even though he did deserve it. Was nice to see him get thrown out of the hotel. Oh and I almost forgot Sheila! I Love hearing about her in prison! I've always thought she was the most delicious villianess of B&B (when they didn't give her those rediculous storylines) and I'm dying to know what she might do to Massimo. Maybe she can get a cryptic message to Mike threw a third party. I can't wait to see what happens at the High Tea with Brooke/Nick/Katie/Jackie! Great story! Looking forward to more! Thank you so much for your comments, foreverbrookie! As Fan2C pointed out, the show has a dismal record of starting something unsavory and not bringing it to a conclusion. The abomination known as Ridget should have never been penned in the first place, and the shoddy way in which the show brought it to its pitiful conclusion left a bad taste in my mouth. Nor, did I like the casual way that Stephanie's betrayal was handled. Onscreen, she's still treated as the "moral compass" of her twisted family; meanwhile, Brooke is still being punished for a letter she swiped 18 years ago! The People magazine was given to me at that time by someone in my office because my husband and I were attending an industry event in L.A. and she wanted to give me some ideas on what to wear while we were there. For some reason, I held on to that magazine and I'm so glad that I did! I wanted Stephanie to finally answer for her treachery and to actually face the consequences. Her troubles are just beginning. She no longer has her lapdog lawyer, Jonathan, in her corner. I also thought it was realistic that Eric would finally fire Jonathan once and for all and get someone who will really look out for his and the company's interests. I had a blast writing the scenes between her and Bridget. Bridget actually does love her mother, but she can't see past what she wants right now. Her thinking is all twisted right now and hopefully, she will get the help she needs. All I can say is may the best--or worst--woman win! I also thought it was high time that someone remembered that Stephanie has already lied about the fate of one of her children. I've always marveled that her story about Ridge's paternity was so readily accepted at face value in light of her history. Meanwhile, every time Brooke gets pregnant, it's mucked up with speculation and the inevitable paternity test. I think it's time that Stephanie realized that she has used up her family's good will and for once, they won't so readily accept what she says as the gospel truth. There may definitely be some more skeletons in her closet! I'm glad you liked the twist about Tricia! I remember the rumors back in 2003 that she was going to hook up with Deacon and that they were both paid by Massimo to break up Bridge; so I decided to take that and run with it. It never made sense to me that after everything that happened with Morgan and her kidnapping Steffy that the family would so readily accept Tricia's claim that she was a friend of Taylor's. I love writing Deacon! He's definitely a nasty one and out for himself. However, he does love his children, which Massimo and others find difficult to believe, and for good reason. I'm glad you liked my description of Massimo--LOL! He's a man given to excess, whether it's money, food, material possessions or pushing for Ridget. He's powerful and not to be fooled with. I wanted someone to stand up to Massimo and I think Deacon is the best person because as nasty as he is, he does keep it real! It was surprising to me that Catherine was not used more in the Ridget storyline instead of spying for Bridget this summer while she hatched her abortion lie. As the children's primary caretaker, she would be the first one to notice what's going on in that house. I'm glad you liked Felicia and Kristen's relationship! Felicia's faux pas about looking like Ridge was something that needed to be addressed. It wasn't even considered when they brought CD back to reprise the role. I loved Jackie and Nick's relationship on the show when they first appeared. It was like a breath of fresh air after watching the near-incestuous relationship between Steph and Ridge for so many years. I was angry when the writers ruined it just so that Jackie could be blamed to prop up Ridge during the WTD storyline. I wanted Nick and Jackie to have that healthy relationship in this story and I wanted to show Nick interacting with other men you don't normally see on B&B. I think it's important that Brooke have her family with her after this horrible experience, and she and Katie are perfect. I did want Brooke to be honest about Hope's paternity and to get it out there on the table and let the chips fall where they may. Freda Frump is a riot! She is so nosy and she intends to keep digging and digging until she finds out exactly why Brooke walked out on the wedding. Now that Brooke has publicly peeped her card, Freda may have an even bigger motive for trying to get to the bottom of things. And, you know that Sheila just had to be brought back! She has her own issues and needs to make a decision soon about her unborn child. ITA with you that Sheila is one of the best villianesses that Bill Bell ever created and that her recent storylines have been rather cartoonish. Someone will, indeed, get a message on the outside about her situation. But, will they want to be bothered? And, yes, Sheila has special plans for Massimo especially if he keeps ignoring her. Ridge is desperate and is behaving like an ass. However, on a certain level he understands that he messed up royally. Now, he wants to "fix it," but it may be too late. Ridge's behavior is definitely off the hook but I'm not sure if I'm ready yet to have him take an evil turn. But, that may all change if he gets a whiff of the attraction between Brooke and Nick. I couldn't help but save the high tea for last! I think everyone will have a great time and after everything that Brooke has been through, I think she deserves it! Thanks again for your comments!
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