Post by dotd on Oct 29, 2005 16:12:01 GMT -5
jrtllf01 said:
Okay, Dot, I know you've heard it a lot, but I'm going to say it again. Stephanie – EWWWWWW! EWWWWW! I always knew the woman was demented, controlling, domineering, and sick and had incestuous leanings, but this goes beyond even my wildest dreams! I don't blame Ridge for being creeped out and wanting to be spared the gory details. I suspect that had he known the extent she went to in order to bring about this staged seduction, he wouldn't have been able to perform. I have to love your imagination and the bed was hysterical! In fact, I thought this chapter had a lot of phallic symbolism in it. I also noticed that some of the ladies acted as if enjoying sex is something to be ashamed of.I don't know what to make of Taylor's eagerness to get her husband back in that way especially with her monster-in-law goading her on. For someone who was sooooo demure about the whole thing, she was quite a willing participant. Taylor's ladylike and demure protestations had me rolling my eyes. She's not the "type" to sex it up with her ex-husband? Isn't this the same swinging single who not only sexed it up with her ex, but with Ridge in a single afternoon? She's not the type to go the seduction route? That WAS her trying to seduce Ridge less than 10 minutes after he walked out on Brooke and their family to be a family with Thomas and Taylor, wasn't it? She's not the "type" to wear revealing lingerie? I only have three words for that: dust bunny teddy! This woman is a stone trip! For all her phony protestations, she has employed all of the above and more to get Ridge, and she has shown that she's still willing to do whatever it takes to get him back. And, if Taylor ever did find out about the videotape, which would honestly upset her more: the fact that the hag watched, or that she set the whole date up?
I don't think anything good will come of Ridge's impromptu decision to give his marriage another chance. I thought he and Taylor were already in a good place and admired the fact that he was being honest with himself and not encouraging her. I suppose there's no heart balm like having one's ego boosted in more ways than one. At least he spared Taylor the indignity of once again giving her a ring he originally purchased for someone else—not that she would have minded. Not only is he not over Brooke, but it seems that Tatiana already has him wrapped around her little finger. I couldn't help but note the girl's cheekiness toward the company's CEO and how she played up to Ridge when Brooke asked her to leave. Brooke is smart not to trust Tatiana and I hope she continues to go with her gut instinct.
But, back to Stephanie. She has a sexy man (I know you don't think so—LOL!) snoring away upstairs but chooses to get her kicks watching her SON and her supposed best friend making love? EWWWWW! And, how evil and sick is it to want to send a videotape to Brooke? It's like she's so obsessed that she hasn't heard a word that Brooke has said!
I loved Brooke and Nick in this chapter. I love how he's so in to her and that he's supportive. They seem to have adapted pretty well to civilization. I love that you are allowing them to enjoy a real courtship complete with day trips, bike rides, casual dining, movies, concerts and some good old-fashioned necking. They are also quite inventive with their lovemaking! I totally agree with Brooke's decision to put off anything else until they get condoms. She and Nick have already survived one close call. I do understand that Nick is anxious to have a little one, but Brooke is smart to want to wait until she's sure of where things are and until her feelings are resolved. That faraway look Nick described is normal and pretty understandable. She and Ridge did share a lot, good and bad. Not to mention, the bond and connection they shared that led Ridge not to give up hope that she was still alive.
That's why their disagreement was so hard to read. Ridge is feeling pissy because Brooke rejected him. It's unfortunate that he doesn't see that she still loves him and wants and needs him as her friend. And, good call on Brooke's part for reminding him how she has ALWAYS been there for him as his friend whenever he moved on and made a life with someone else. In fact, onscreen there was a time when Ridge repeatedly referred to Brooke as his best friend.
Speaking of friends, I'm glad that Carla was able to come to L.A. She got a really bad deal with that job of hers. I think most women could definitely relate to what she's going through. Imagine training someone only to have him promoted over you, as YOUR boss! Like others, I really do like and care about Carla. I totally felt where she was coming from in not wanting to make it easy for Nick to assume that just because she's accepted that he wants Brooke, and then automatically they should all be friends. Her catty comments threw me but it's definitely the type of thing women do. Lord knows it's been pretty vicious here in Washington these days with that poor Harriet lady. I've never seen so many cats outside of an alley! I'm glad Carla was able to retract her claws though. Her comments about Brooke's business acumen really pissed me off because onscreen there have been repeated references to Brooke getting her stock in divorce settlements. It's very realistic though and illustrates how we as women don't always support one another especially when we perceive that someone has an unfair advantage because of her looks, wealth, sex appeal, or willingness to sleep her way to the top. I felt really bad for Carla during the lunch, as well. It took a lot for her to agree to go in the first place. Here, she figured she could at least retain some of her dignity and leave quietly, go back to her hotel and make some decisions. How hard it is for really strong and prideful people to accept the help of others! I had to cackle though when she decided to step out of the box and get her some. Man, that Deacon must be a veritable bull! Now, I just need to figure who turned WHO out!
I was pretty tense during the Bridget/Deacon/Brooke scenes. I'm still all for Brooke throwing the male gold-digger out on his ear! But, I understand that she's been giving him the benefit of the doubt but I'm worried that her actions are going to be misconstrued. I was surprised that Deacon broke up with Bridget this soon. He was brutal, but honest. I also think it's for the best. It was a cringe-worthy moment seeing Bridget beg for their marriage, and promising to be a better wife and to be better in bed. There are so many women who do this everyday and a lot of them aren't as young as Bridget. A no-good, cheating, lying man is better than no man at all. It's bitter medicine for Bridget now, but one day she'll understand. BTW—I love CJ! I was disappointed that the writers didn't follow up on the Romeo/Juliet theme they could have had with Bridget and CJ and instead opted for shock and awe in the form of Sicket. Is there any chance that Bridget will forgive Brooke? After all, look at what Brooke has had to forgive! Oh and thanks for allowing Brooke to ream the child out about her lies. It's definitely a welcomed change from what occurs onscreen. I'm also curious as to whether you cast JF or AJ as your Bridget.
This was such a great, fun and erotically charged chapter, Dot! I can't wait to read more and I especially look forward to learning the fate of that letter.
I have to laugh at how you’re catching Taylor on every contradiction in her life. I know she has been sexual, when it suited her and she has been very conniving too, but the Taylor we are seeing now is one who feels that Ridge is truly a prize and that she really wants him back and doesn’t think she can have him. She’s now into the perfect lady and mother mode, so her past sensuality has gone out the door. She’s embarrassed by it to the point that I suppose in her mind it never happened. Of course she has always been part of the Blame Brooke crowd so that couldn’t end.
I agree with you that it probably wasn’t such a good thing that Ridge has given in to the idea of remarriage. We know that it’s a rebound thing, and I’m sure in her heart Taylor does too, but she wants it that badly and she thinks she can recapture the glory of their past. Maybe they can, but right now Ridge’s heart isn’t really into it, though his heart WAS into developing a good family life and trying to work on his relationship with Taylor. But remember, I am getting all my ducks in a row for some future happenings and it was important for Ridge and Taylor to become closer for things to work. Ridge’s ego though, was given a much needed boost, but then Tatiana was boosting it too and I think she will still try to boost it, engagement or not. And yes, Brooke is very suspicious of her, something none of the Forrester men are LOL! I wonder if Brooke and Deacon will find this a point to push them together or pull them apart. He seems to be on to her but he likes being in control doesn’t he?
Brooke and Nick are very close and getting more and more in tune with each other. By taking their relationship at a slower pace they have learned a lot about each other and about themselves too. They’ve had fun with some casual dating and yet their love has really grown. They are adapting to life at home and realizing together that they truly did have more than just sex. I had to throw in Nick’s fears about Ridge and some more insight to Brooke and Ridge’s relationship because I believe that their history deserves it. Part of Brooke’s reluctance to completely let go and give in to Nick is that love that she still feels for Ridge. She has to be 100% certain that it has changed to a friendship love. She doesn’t want to marry Nick only to open her eyes one day to discover that she is still in love with Ridge. She is growing. As for Ridge, he is just so angry and so stubborn that he is ready to just throw away the relationship that Brooke is ready to offer him. When they first got home Brooke was ready to consider a life with Ridge, she wasn’t pushing that away, she just needed time. But he wouldn’t give that to her and now he’s thrown away his chance. Hopefully they can find the ties that have always bound them and recover their lifelong friendship again.
I like Carla and I think she is very complex. There is a lot more to her than the woman who was settling for a life with Nick. I think their relationship was holding them both back. I know that they do love each other and cherish their friendship, but Carla is still hurting. Nick does see that and is trying his best to deal with it, but it’s hard to let Carla rant when her rants are going against the woman he loves. Now I know that we would like to see Carla above any name calling and such, but women do tend to be catty to each other, especially when a man in involved. What’s good is that Carla does realize what she is doing and deep down she is supporting Nick. I think once she lets herself get to know Brooke and visa versa, they will respect each other and maybe even like each other. The lunch was very hard for her, she had been through such a rough time and she was still hurting over Nick and Brooke and then to have the embarrassment brought up while watching the happy couples, well it was just too much for her. She just had to get out of her own skin and do something that was unCarlalike LOL!
I know that you’re not trusting Deacon, and for good reason, but I think he is really trying to be a better person and he really respects Brooke. It was hard for him to give up Bridget. While he wasn’t in love with her, he had come to love her and it had to have been nice to have that easy life and all that adoration. He did it for Brooke and for Bridget and while in the end everyone should be better off, I think this is going to cause a lot of bad feelings.
I wanted to give Bridget someone to turn to and I wanted to give her an appropriate man for after Deacon. I remembered how good the CJ/Bridget stuff could have been if CJ hadn’t lost his mind and become a Ridget supporter. I wanted someone different to play him though. I just couldn’t see Mick Cain after all of that, no offense to Mick. Our own sweet Pam gave me the CJ I’ve chosen and as for your question about Bridget, I started when JF played her and to be honest, I really hate AJ so I couldn’t switch, and my Bridget is younger, more like the Bridget JF played in the beginning of her run.
I’m glad you liked Brooke giving it to Bridget. I felt that she had to, and that people expected it last chapter. I didn’t want to let anyone down. Brooke loves Bridget and she understands her reasoning, but she is the adult and she had to let Bridget know that what she did was wrong.
Thanks so much for reading and for your wonderful comments! I truly appreciate them!